My Palmdale times equal what at sea level?

[JRSCGSR]

Hey mino, if my memory serves me correctly, don't you have a built engine with a lowered compression ratio? That would definitely hurt your times, with the lowered compression. Ever get your dynos to improve? I know one guy that ran at pomona with the base 8 psi Greddy kit, got a 14.4 on 17 inch wheels, but I've heard that pomona(which is not that great of a track) is leagues better than Palmdale. Try some stickier tires, and if you want to cure the wheel hop, get the energy suspension engine mount inserts. Just be prepared for feeling like your car is going to fall apart as it vibrates when you're stopped, it's pretty bad.

Jon

[MINO]

DAMN. Some people have a great memory.
I just recently removed that motor and replaced it with a '00 with 4000 miles. The KG set-up really sucked. #1 had 12% leakage, 165 compression all around, 20W50 racing oil that would disappear after 2000 miles. Unusually noisy even with Arias pistons. I wanted to start fresh so my brother found me a motor for real cheap.
I only got 1 run in so I know it'll take some experience with the current set-up. I've never liked Palmdale (especially the first 60') and have always struggled with traction. At least I wasn't the DRAG turbo'd
B16A civic making 16's.

Thanks guys.

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[JRSCGSR]

Not a bad job then, considering the guy with the DRAG was running 16s. Palmdale does suck crap though, last time I went with some friends, the track wasn't even cleaned, there were like small pebbles and sh!t all over the first 60'. Looking at your 60' times though, they can defintiely improve with maybe some drag radials, or just practice. Are you using the stock clutch still? I've heard that there are some weak spots in the Greddy kit, and it's in the downpipe specifically and the restrictor that resides in one of the intercooler pipes(not sure why it's there). You should look into getting a 3" downpipe made, running into either a straight pipe or 3 inch cat and a custom 3 inch exhaust, that would improve response tremendously. Most Greddy kits with intercooler seem to be dynoing at around 230hp with the stock downpipe, so I'm sure you could hit 250-260 with a revised exhaust setup mentioned above(this is all with a healthy engine though). Did you give your new engine a compression/leakdown test? It's not always about times at the strip though, especially if you don't practice that much, because that's what it always comes down too. How well you know your car/track, and how well you can drive it. These things only come with practice though, like the guys that can dip into the low 14s with an intake on their R's, practice is everything(not to mention having a sweet ass engine). You can see this with the wide range of times the JRSC turns out, there's guys like Javin and Greg that are in the 13s on street tires, and then there's always the stories you hear about people not being able to control their car and pulling high 14s, low 15s after the s/c.

By the way, what kind of cars have you encountered on the street with your Greddy Kit? I can get my hands on one with the large intercooler for about 2300 at the moment and was thinking about trying out a turbo too(I've had my s/c for 3 years this Oct already). My friend has one in his stripped 94 GSR, and the thing is pretty fast, I haven't raced him yet though.

Jon

[registry]

MINO - You should stick some ES motor mount inserts in your car. It will get rid of the wheel hop and you'll get some nice tight launches. A cheap fix at about $40.00.

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[MINO]

I don't know if I should be content or dissapointed with my first run with my greddy kit. Here's the setup:
96 GSR
Greddy kit @ .55 kg cm
stock cat
apex N1 exhaust
16/45/205 yokohama Parada's (30 psi, front)
Nothing removed from car (mats, seats, tools, spare and Infinity Subwoofer)
Half tank of gas

The result:
60 ft - 2.383
ET - 15.01 @ 93.78

I wanted real world results (other than the elevation) so I left everything the way it is on the street. I experienced a bit of wheel-hop after every shift. What can I do to fix it.

Given the conditions, what do you guys think.


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[Marc]

Well, since LACR is 2600' elevation your 15.0 translates to about a 14.6. That's a bit disappointing for an 8psi kit. Your car is capable of quicker times with a 94mph trap speed.

I do remember running into some JRSC GS-R guys at LACR a couple of years ago and they were running 14.8 @6psi on street tires.

I think you need an intercooler, some engine mount bushings, (Ask JRCIVIC) and some tuning.

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[registry]

For the motor mounts to be truly effective, you need to put all 3 of them in. The back one is kind of a pain in the ass but truly worth it in the end. Vibration is minimal.

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[vtecvoodoo]

The infamous Mino =)

I`m not a big fan of the Greddy Kit. We threw a Dyno Day at Atomic and Woong only made like 206 or something. It was pretty sad. Pawn that kit off on some ricer and get the drag.

Ryan

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[MINO]

C'mon Ryan,
theres potential for the kit . I was going to go with the rev hard kit originally but I just don't have time to find a shop to smog me. Plus I don't feel like shelling out $200 a pop for a hook-up.
I'm trying to figure out what Greddy did to get their numbers on the dyno @ .55 kg. (probably race gas and ignition advance).

When I grow tired of the limitations of this kit I'll move on to something else. I'm going to XS in the following weeks for a new dyno run. We'll see how bad it is.

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[MINO]

Jon-
Your right about the Greddy kit and it's downfalls. The restrictor is right at the intake filter. I removed it and noticed it causes boost to spike up to .6 kg then flattens out to .55. The downpipe is pretty tiny too.
My brother tested the engine beforeI recieved it. Compression was a very healthy 215 across the board. Leakage was 1%-0%. My brother was really suprised with the results so he tested it about 4 times just to make sure.
As for cars that I have encountered-
SC toyota Solara- Beat him slowly (this was when I was Dyno'd @ 195)
A lot of GSR's, ITR's, Civics, Mustang GT(previous Gen)
Just last week I decided to play with a Yamaha motorcycle. It looked like a 600. At first he had a sizable lead but as the speed went up (120-140) I easly passed him. Less notably my 15.0 run was against a Gutted Focus complete with slicks and skinnys and some kind of power adder. He got a 15.2 @ 86.
I find that a lot of races are over before they begin when the instigater hears the blow-off valve.
I got the Greddy kit because, I feel, it's right in between the JRSC and DRAG kits. I've driven cars with each kit. If you like the torque and low end of your JRSC you may be dissapointed. But it is a good price.
What shops do you go to? I haven't found a reputable shop up here so I drive down to Holeshot in Anahiem.

registry-
the wheelhop occured only when shifting. The launch was hop-less. And isn't there 1 of the 3 mounts that I can leave stock to relieve the shakes?